World Financial Group Review

by Christopher on June 25, 2009

Let me start by saying that I loved working with WFG ( World Financial Group) for the last four and a half years.  In this article I am going to give all of the hard working knowledge I gained from being a part of this company as well as the not so good things.

What Is World Financial Group

World Financial Group, previously known as World Marketing Alliance,  is a financial services company that provides a broad array of financial products such as Insurance, Annuities, mutual funds and investment advisory services.

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WFG is located in all 50 states, Canada and China.  They are owned by one of the largest financial firms in the business, Aegon.    WFG is also one of the biggest financial recruiting firms in the world, with nearly 10,000 recruits every month.

World Financial Group has been around since the early 1990′s and has grown considerably since its inception.  They started out as a group of four founders and multiplied into thousands of representatives.

What World Financial Group Taught Me

When I first got started with WFG I heard a lot of stories about the company.  Some were proclaiming it as a total scam and advised me not to get involved.  However I decided that even if I could just learn how to manage my money better it would be worth it.  In fact, that is the first thing they taught me.

The truth is you shouldn’t be giving financial advice unless you have your house in order first and that is what I did.  I got some much needed life insurance and set up a couple of retirement accounts.

Secondly, after getting started with WFG I learned to build great communication skills.  This skill taught me how to engage in conversations with people and win them over to my way to thinking.

Third, I learned how to run a business.  This was the major reason I got involved with WFG.  They taught me how start and run a successful business and the best part about it was they were there with me every step of the way.  With weekly and quarterly meetings I was always ahead of the curve with my business.

The Down Side To World Financial Group

During this  World Financial Group review my goal was to give you all of the great things I got out of this company but also give you the negatives as well.  It doesn’t matter what opportunity you look at whether it be WFG or some other financial company like Primerica they all have some down sides to them.

With every business comes expenses and WFG has a few of them.  There will be others but at this point I am just talking about the expenses for the beginners.  The first of them being the $100 sign up fee, $125 in Canada.  This fee is paid directly to the home office and will get you your code number that you need in order to get paid.

Second, WFG is entirely commissioned based.  There are no salaries, or hourly pay scales.  You get what you earn. However this is not entirely bad, my first commission with WFG was a check for $500 for a mortgage I wrote.  At the same end don’t expect to make money right away.  It took me around 5 months to get my first check.

Third, in order to get a commission you must get licensed.  This means you will have to dedicate some time and money to get all of this done.  Expect to pay around $1000 just to get the basic licensing and around 20 to 40 hours of state required time to get approved for your life insurance license.

Fourth, once you do get licensed you’ll have to start paying what is called E&O insurance.  Think kind of like malpractice insurance but just for financial professionals.  This will be something around $90 a month before you are able to reap the rewards of your commission check.  Needless to say you have to pay to play with WFG.

Finally, everything I have mentioned above is nothing compared to the amount of work you have to put in to see the result you want.  Expect to be putting in some long hours at the office and at appointments until you get on your feet.

Who Is The Right Person For World Financial Group

WFG has brought in many people from all different kinds of backgrounds.  However if you are thinking you need at least a 4 year financial degree and prior experience think again.  In fact, WFG would prefer people that have no experience and degree.

Second, you should be willing to accept the financial cost I mentioned earlier.  However, don’t get too worried if this is a concern for you.  I once knew a guy who took up a paper route to pay for all of his expenses.

Third, you will have to pass a background check.  This means if you have any kind of felony conviction you will probably not be able get involved with World Financial Group.

Finally, if you are able to follow some simple directions this may be an excellent opportunity for you.  However, just because something is simple does not mean it’s easy.  If you’re someone who is more of a rule breaker and like to do things your way this may not be for you.

How To Get Started

The easiest way to get started is if you know a friend in the business.  They would be able to get an interview set up for you and get you started.  However, if you don’t have that as an option you can find an office nearby and give them a call.

The easiest way to do that is go to the World Financial Group Website here. Next, in the upper right hand corner you will see the words, ‘Office Locator.’  Next to that click on the state you live in. If you live in Canada or another country you may have to call the home office.

wfg_21At this point a list of offices around that state will come up.  Select an office that is close to you and give them a call.   Ask them if you could attend their BPM ( Business Presentation Meeting)  This is a meeting usually held a couple times a week that explains more about the company and the opportunity available .  If you live in the city, offices will tend be close; however, if you live in the middle of nowhere you may have to do a little traveling to get there.  In fact, I had to drive an hour and a half to get to my office.

Now, there is a down side to doing it this way and that is that not all offices are created.  So when you do go to an office find out how successful they are.  Tell them you heard that World Financial Group has been a very successful company and you would like to know what kind of success they have had.

If they can’t give a straight answer move on.  Also look for plaques and trophies and other awards that office has won.  The evidence should be clear.  If they don’t have these things keep looking until you do find a good office.  If an office has a lot of success then there is a good chance you will too.

Chris

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This post was recently featured in The Money Hacks Carnival by The Canadian Finance Blog.


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JEFF January 3, 2010 at 2:29 am

Somebody believe in WFG might think I am a loser. (I don’t mean I don’t trust WFG, at least I don’t think it is a scam.) Somehow I am a loser. I gave up not because I am a guy easily give up, not because I felt the difficulty then quit, not because I am a guy lack of persistence, but because I am a full time student need some instant cash to alleviate my current financial difficulty, and because I don’t feel good with the recruit strategy.

I am a loser regarding WFG, probably.
But I am not a coward easily giving up, definitely.

Christopher Holdheide January 3, 2010 at 12:30 pm

I quit WFG as well so I must be a loser too. However like you I had other opportunities come along. I took over my parent business, which pays out far more than WFG ever did. I also didn’t like all the cost, with large E&O fees, paying to go to conventions or any other event it took a lot of money to do those things, money I didn’t always have.

Was it a complete failure, no. I learned what it takes to run a business and how to deal with my own financial situations. I give you a lot of credit for trying this business is not for everyone. In fact the turnover rate with the company is huge. They recruit around 10,000 a month and maybe 1% to 5% stick around. Personally I was never much of a recruiter my self I focused on the product side of things more, selling insurance and investments. The truth is it’s a very competitive business that you have to be 100% dedicated to.

Thanks for the great comments and thoughts.

Jeremy January 4, 2010 at 2:47 am

That’s right Christopher, way too many Ed Mylett speeche’s. The guy is powerful and inspiring.
WFG hires great people. I’ve met lawyers, engineers, teachers, successfull sale’s professionals all with great work ethics. But being a MLM, they fall into the failure rate. That’s just the way MLM’s are. If one accepts that, you could make a decision to stay or go. Hang in there or cut your losses.

Thank’s for this discussion

kobe January 4, 2010 at 4:40 am

Don’t get me started on Ed Mylet. It’s funny to see how some poor souls idolize him. I recently went to an event here in Anaheim, California, and it was part “church” meeting and sales pitch rolled into one. I think Ed is a good speaker, and he commands respect because of his success. However, he went out of his way to mention his Christian faith, but then proceeded to bash all the people that didn’t have their lives “put together.” Although I agree with his purpose of telling the truth (it hurts sometimes), it wasn’t necessary for him to essentially call people losers. I do not know whether Ed is a Christian or not, but don’t patronize the Christians in the audience, and then proceed to use “damn” or innapropriate jokes to win more recruits. Aside from this, he used emotional language and stories very well (people respond to emotion). I also liked the presentation of products and business opportunity. I am grateful for one thing; I stopped my affliation with WFG because I couldn’t imagine myself inviting my friends and family (all professional) to hear the rah, rah meetings and making sure they are becoming licensed etc. If you love to sell, then WFG is NOT for you. Their bread and butter is recruiting.

Daniel January 7, 2010 at 2:12 am

If you want something you’ve never had, You have to do something you’ve never done. Either you are hungry enough………………….or not

Combden January 7, 2010 at 8:31 pm

To continue on what Daniel said above…
“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results” -Einstein

Todd March 3, 2010 at 8:18 pm

We live and learn, the right person is one that is a good con man, 95% of people are in it for your money and bank account, ask questions and don’t get ripped off, I learned my lesson, that doesn’t make you dumb but it makes you a stronger person. This company will fold eventually like WMA did, they just changed there name to world financial group.

Todd March 3, 2010 at 8:25 pm

Be careful there is alot of scams out there, eventually World Financial Group will fold like World Marketing Alliance did and some people will be in handcuffs for insurance fraud, the country is in a hard time with the economy and people losing there jobs, people are desperate and they are out for themselves, be around honest people and always question people, keep strong.

Christopher Holdheide March 3, 2010 at 8:54 pm

I’m sure their are a few bad apples in the company, it’s just inevitable with the size of the company to catch them all. WFG recruits nearly 10,000 people a month. Also WMA changes it’s name because Hubert Humphrey sold the company to Aegon. They then decide to change the name to World Financial Group.

As far as the company being shut down, I really doubt it. I’ve been around many of their top leaders, taken tours of their home office, and been to their conventions and every year I was with them they were growing by nearly 30% every year. That’s impressive.

Finally, I do feel if anybody is ripping someone off they should have their license revoked and be barred from the industry altogether. This not only goes for WFG but every other company other as well. Securities fraud is a serious violation and people who break the laws should pay.

Thanks for your comments.

Todd March 4, 2010 at 8:32 am

Why don’t they go public? They would be making more if they did.

Christopher Holdheide March 4, 2010 at 1:27 pm

I not really sure. It may have something to do with Aegon their parent company. It’s also has a lot to do with WFGs business model. When you join WFG you are starting your own business not getting hired to do a job.

Darrell March 4, 2010 at 7:09 pm

It is truly sad that when individuals do not succeed they look to blame and bash a company instead of just bowing out and saying it’s just not for them. Every business has a few bad apples in it that spoil the whole bunch but WFG as a company itself is not as bad of a picture as people paint. You have to try it for yourself. By individuals slamming WFG company only discourages others and they may miss out on their opportunity for success. How will one ever know if they do not try. Yes you pay fees but nothing compared to what you would paying for owning your own McDonalds. Wake up call, you need $250,000 cash on hand to just start the discussion process with McDonald’s Total Investment: $950,200-$1,800,000. WFG Licensing and online courses total $400.00, plus some organinzations reimburse you $300.00 if you complete the requirements in 30 days, do the math. I don’t understand people spend that money and marry themselves to McDonalds but cry about what has to be done in WFG. WFG is not for everyone we need people to flip our burgers and to sell us clothes but there are some that want to do WFG but those that were to hard headed to follow the system want to point the finger at WFG which is not fair to discourage others from their quest to become business owners. If your trainer or your leader fail you then i suggest that you find another and fight to win. Bottom line is you have to invest in yourself to become successful. If you want a free lunch or money to fall into your lap then WFG is not for you, but if you believe in yourself and have devoted work ethics, and you can duplicate yourself and others you will achieve you dream in WFG.

Darrell March 4, 2010 at 7:30 pm

I read comments of people saying they did not make money and the only way that happens in WFG is if you do not apply yourself or make efforts. I knew nothing about finaince and once licensed I made $2,000 my first month licensed. They say most businesses do not even make a profit for two years and with WFG after 3 or 4 months people are ready to quit. You just have to get out there and keep interviewing people for your business. If someone says no thye are not saying no to you they are just saying no not right now. If you have something and believe in what you have eventually it will turn around for you. It’s a struggle but in time you woll reap the fruits of your efforts. Again if you looking for a get rich quick opportuniity then no this is not for you. This business is regulated and filled with compliances because you are dealing with finances and I am glad they are in place to give people that sense of trust.

Christopher Holdheide March 4, 2010 at 8:15 pm

Well said Darrell, I agree with you whole heartedly. Everything you said was right on. I just wish others could see the positive side to the business as well.
I should also mention I left WFG in 2008 not because the business was a scam or a rippoff but because I was asked to take over the family business. It was a tough desicion. However, I have no regrets and believe World Financial Group is a great place for someone to get started in a finanical services career. They will teach you everything about money and running a business.
Finally, I believe it is about one of the best business opportunities out there today, however the nay sayers will be back to leave more comments that this company is a scam. I believe those that say this haven’t truely given WFG a chance. I stuck it out for four and a half years loved it.

Thanks for the comments Darrell.

Todd March 5, 2010 at 12:45 am

Everything has a surrender charge, that means you surrender all your money to them, be careful of what you read and be careful of people telling you that you can retire in a few years. More like they can retire on your money and your left holding the bag of empty promises!

kobe March 5, 2010 at 1:20 am

I keep reading about this financial education that one receives from WFG. Huh? Did I miss something here? Yes, you learn about the potential tax free retirement utilizing life insurance, but it’s only superficial. The truth is most WFG agents don’t realize how powerful the concept is. Add that with the tax free death benefit! Try leaving your 401k to your heirs and uncle Sam gets its cut! As I have previously written, wfg is not a scam or unethical. The “training” is more introductory in nature (as it relates to the products and benefits),while the bulk of the time training emphasizes recruiting. My sister n law purchased their western reserve life product (partly due to my brief affiliation with wfg), and I have never openly expressed negativity towards wfg or my upline.– I think, rather I know for a fact that other companies’ EIUL products are better, and it’s not even close. Of course, many of their agents are not aware or don’t care. Personally, I would feel guilty selling an inferior product to friends and family.

Todd March 6, 2010 at 8:41 pm

It’s best to stay away from compound stock earnings and world financial group, I was in it a few years ago and they where telling me to lie to my friends about making money in this even though I didn’t make a penny yet, I believe that the government is corrupt here, and they are nickel and diming us with the taxes, trust your judgement and watchout for anyone that tells you that you can get rich in a year or two.

Ramiro March 31, 2010 at 3:05 pm

Robert Kiyosaki and Donald Trump both recommend Network Marketing. They also recommend that you do your due diligence. Research the prospective company. Also, Robert Kiyosaki recommends that if you decide to venture in Network Marketing, to stick with it for at least 5 years. WFG is owned by Aegon. Aegon is a publicly traded company. That is probably why WFG is not public. A WFG agent is a sales-person that offers financial planning and insurance products. It is a very regulated business. Is it a scam? I don’t think so. I think it is an easy way to at the very least get you foot in the door in the financial planning industry without a lot of up front money. If you were to start your own financial planning office you would need to find office space, set up phone lines, set up answering services, set up fax lines, set up internet lines, buy office equipment, buy office supplies, buy office furniture, marketing expenses, business insurance, employees and more I’m sure. Can you imagine what all that adds up to? Thousands of dollars. Not to mention getting licensed and paying E & O. With WFG you pay $100 to get started. Now it is sometimes said that the $100 is for background checks etc… But from my experience it looks to me like it is used to set up your business with access to wfg-online, get your code number set up, background checks, and all the necessary bits and pieces to start your business. Many people ask, why does WFG charge for background checks? When applying for a job, an employer does not charge for a background check. Remember, WFG does not employ agents. All agents are Independent representatives for WFG. Network marketing is a tough business but if you stick with it, as Robert Kiyosaki recommends, it will be rewarding.

Christopher Holdheide March 31, 2010 at 3:10 pm

Exactly my point Ramiro, I couldn’t have said it better myself.

Todd April 1, 2010 at 11:06 pm

I guess some people have a money tree some where, compound stock earnings gets 4 to 6 percent every month, and they don’t have anything to do with banks, doesn’t that sound like Madoff now, either money is being grown on a tree or coming from the sky somewhere. :) :)

Priscilla April 10, 2010 at 7:27 pm

I went to one of there meetings and everyone was raw raw raw and said we would be making money, it sounded fishy and those other women were trying to get me into this WFG, the guys looked cute and where hitting on me, I needed a job and some help, I asked them questions about the company and they gave me blank looks. Then they asked me to find people for them, I just graduated from DePaul and have a degree in finance. The advisor told me if I gave her 100 dollars, I would be in and have a job, and could retire in 2 years. That really sounded to good too be true. I went to Oak Brook and I was questioning them why I had to give them money for a job. I want to call the SEC on them and see if this is a real thing or a scam.

sanj April 15, 2010 at 12:25 am

i would like to know how much they pay

Christopher Holdheide April 16, 2010 at 6:02 pm

Sanj,
Wfg pays on a commission only basis. Typical associates start out by getting paid 25% on the gross commission. So if the total commission was $1000 you would earn $250. I know that sounds low but if you do the work you’ll move up the ranks pretty quick. The Marketing Directors position pays around 60%, but they have other ways they pay as well like vacations, stock options, and awards.

I hope this helps.

Priscilla April 16, 2010 at 7:36 pm

Be careful sanj they told me I would retire at 24 years old, I graduated from DePaul and I found a real job and this WFG group will tell you anything to take your money, they ask you to pay 200 dollars and then you have to get people for them, but you wouldn’t get any money until you convince other people that your making money and they should give there money to you, try it but they say only .001% of the people make money, I think you might have a better chance of winning the lottery.

Jamie April 16, 2010 at 11:27 pm

“I think you might have a better chance of winning the lottery.”

The odds is winning a lottery is one to 13,983,816 (according to CBC News). Unless my math is wrong, 1 divided by 13,983,816 is 0.0000000715. I guess the 0.001% chance of succeeding at WFG (as you claim) is much better than winning the lottery. ;)

But all joking aside, the registration cost for starting at WFG is 100USD in US and 125CDN in Canada (which is silly now that CDN is on par with USD haha). Unless WFG is operating with a different currency that I’m not aware of, I’d say Priscilla’s been misinformed. And who’s the “they” that you speak of?

I can’t vouch for individual branches and how they operate their business. As it has already been mentioned up there, there are bad apples in every company, big or small. It doesn’t mean the company itself is doing things wrong. Besides, if the big 5 banks in Canada are partnered with WFG, what does that tell ya? I have a feeling they’d have the resources and experience to be a much better judge of WFG’s credibility than a fresh college graduate. Make sense?

Darrell April 18, 2010 at 3:36 am

Yes it is true WFG is not the be all end all but it is a legitmate business that is regulated. We in WFG wish everyone would join us but the truth of the matter is that we need people to wait on tables, work at 7 Elevens, and other work orientated facets. As you all know we have began a job or joined the military and said it wasn’t for me and eventually moved on to things that fit our lifes style. Now if Michael Jordan quit when he was cut from the Basketball in high school and quit because he felt it was not for him we would not know Michael Jordan today but he believed in himself and did not give up and became one of the greatest basketball players of all time. We can call on many countless stories like Michael Jordan but it would not make a difference because you have to believe in your own success. If successful people let obstacles get in their way or quit becuase it did not work right away we may still be in the dark ages. Yes, there are moments for the rah, rah because success brings motivation. You can sell in WFG but some like to build and building brings leverage like any other business structure built in this great country. You can sell but if you fall sick for a week your income falls but if you are leveraged then you fall sick you still have income coming in to help you get through your down time. I respect those who know and realize it’s not for them but those that blame and slander WFG for not being able to do WFG.

Darrell April 19, 2010 at 12:43 pm

I feel are not being fair to others who may want WFG as a business or see WFG as a vehicle to supplement their income and also help others. Nothing is perfect but you can always work towards perfection.

Priscilla April 21, 2010 at 6:25 pm

These women are still calling me to join WFG, and some guys are trying to convince me to come back. I’m happy that there still interested in the business but it’s not for me and I wish everyone good luck and don’t lose your butt. :) :)

Darrell April 22, 2010 at 3:21 am

Priscilla, all you have to do is instead of writing it here tell them that you appreciate the interest but WFG is not for you and that you don’t mind being their friend and value their friendship and they feel the same but you are just not interested in doing WFG. However, they may see something in you that you do not see yourself right now. In some cases it’s best to say I have tried then to say I have not. I have been doing WFG for nine months and all has been gains and zero losses. Priscilla it’s ones passion and belief in what one does is what makes a person successful because if a person can not sense ones sincerity then you can not sell or recruit anyone. In any case you do not believe at this time and may never so for you to try this yes it may not work in your current state of mind. As I said earlier the world needs people like you to do what you do because if everyone joins us then who will do the jobs we need done outside WFG. We believe in no families left behind so I respectfully hope that you were kind enough to let someone go over with you your Personal Financial Strategy so that you become like some Americans that fail to plan and then when they want to retire they can not because they failed to plan. It’s free to consult but at lease you know what direction to go in so that you win in the end.

Darrell April 22, 2010 at 3:41 am

It’s funny people pay to go to college go for four years and bring in no income and don’t complain, why? Because they feel as though when they graduate they will achieve six figures one day, but what if doesn’t work out that way then what do you say, “oh college doesn’t work”, but wait some have graduated and making six figures so why say it doesn’t work? WFG is the same you pay admin fees and online courses the on the job training is free. It’s all in ones mindset if you believe in yoursef and your ability you can achieve. I love WFG because it challenges me to new levels that better me as a person and that I can provide a service to those families out there that need help of my services. I am not scamming or taking advantage of anyone however, I am giving families protection and security for their families. It really hits home when you deliver a benifit to a family that has delt with a loss and they look you in your face with tears and their eyes and hug you and say thank you and then a few months later they call you and say they would of been homeless or they don’t know what would of happen to their family had we not came and talked to them. That’s when you know what you are doing is good. It’s just not about making money and who makes money off of you it’s about helping those who don’t understand to understand. Tomorrow is promised to none of us, the end has no age or time it just happens and what we do is give peope that security to know that their families will be taken care of when that day comes for them.

Michael April 22, 2010 at 7:14 pm

I’m reading all this stuff about WFG and it would seem that there is alot of dirty things going on here, my friend got into it a few years ago and lost 10K and he’s calling his advisor and they refuse to call him back, that surrender charge killed his insurance policy, if anyone is reading this please stay away and don’t lose your money in these economic times, watchout for all those associates that will lie and do anything to take your money.

Jamie April 22, 2010 at 10:56 pm

Darrell, don’t waste your time replying “Michael”, “Priscilla”, or “Todd”. It’s all the same person trolling this blog entry over and over again, month after month. He or edbear63@aol.com should be the last person to point fingers at WFG and calling its associates liars. Just look at what he’s been doing, pretending to be a woman, and now somebody else just to bring up the same old issues. And everytime, they all have a different story.

Just do a google on edbear63 and you’ll find him trolling on other blogs and forums too… in addition to a profile on http://www.BlueCollarDates.com. ’nuff said.

Christopher Holdheide April 23, 2010 at 9:40 am

Thanks for mentioning that Jamie. WFG really is great company and how people can look past all of the fluff some people are claiming them to be. I worked with them for several years and got a heck an education in finance. Thanks for all your support.

Ed T June 25, 2010 at 6:09 pm

I am too an ex-WFGer. I, too, can vouch it’s not a scam, MLM, pyramid scheme as it appears to be. Those whom are ignorant or go in thinking it’s easy money and in the end get burned find something to blame other than themselves. I didn’t stick with it for 2 main reasons. It wasn’t for me. Though i gave it the best shot i could for 1 and half years of my life, countless of conferences, weekly meetings, training many people under my base and still being trained myself. Alas, I couldn’t go forward anymore. My own personal past didn’t allow me to get licensed no matter how hard my MD and CEO MD tried to work with home office to get it cleared. In the end, I took with me what i learned. I now have a JOB, (Journey Of the Broke) as some of you WFGers would call it, that is satisfying. I make three quarters of a 6 figure income which is 3 times the salary i was making before i came on board with WFG. I gained insight in running a business. I gained leadership. I gained a new social network group and my finances is ever so squeaky clean and strong. Thanks WFG and the team at Alviso under the strong leadership of Xuan. It was definitely the best 1 year and half of my life.

Christopher June 25, 2010 at 11:16 pm

Great comment Ed, I believe some people are quick to judge WFG even thought they’ve never tried it themselves. I wish the licensing would have worked out better for though. I had a rough time with it as well but was able to get my life and health series 6 and 63.

Huggle July 23, 2010 at 4:42 am

Hello everyone,
My fiance and I recently started our business with WFG. We were “recruited” by a friend that we have known for several years. I can’t say for sure how I feel about the business because its’ only been less than 2 weeks. There were times were I thought it was a scam, but I trust my friend. I was really happy about this business and was hoping to *educate* and help many families. I can’t help but to feel naive… I think I might have made a decision too soon, it almost seems that the objective of WFG has been shifted to sales and recruiting. I want to feel that I am booking appointments to educate the families. Instead I feel that when I book appointments my trainer is pushing for a sale or to get a recruit. Maybe I am completely missing the point. This is why I’m still on the fence! I know that I have to be recruiting and making sales to make income! So that I can pay off the membership fee, course fee, licence fee, E & O fee, convention and flight fee in Las Vegas (looking foward to it) that I have added or will add to my already existing debt @_o that I was hoping to pay off with WFG? lol. I guess I’m just looking for some reassurance that I will get somewhere in this business with my fiance, and will be able to truely help people instead of just taking their money or turning them into recruits and taking their money then hoping they stay or become sucessful..

Thanks

Sarah September 1, 2010 at 9:11 pm

I have worked with WFG for 3 and a half months now and I am now working for another company with regular hours. I have made more money in a week with a traditional 9-5 job than I have in the months I spent at WFG.

The positive aspects I find in WFG are the opportunities to improve your business skills like knowing how to own your own business, networking, selling, and presenting. I wouldn’t go so far to say WFG helps you learn about finances because you learn that through a third party paid from your own bank account not through WFG. Their training is based more on prospecting for clients and recruits (writing down and calling your top 25 list or contacting people in your warm market) than learning about the financial products and basic insurance technicalities. Their training can get repetitive at times and it can be a complete waste of your time.

The negative aspects I found with WFG are the constant lies and the encouragement of going against your personal ethnical boundaries. When I was first recruited, they told me all I needed was a life insurance licensed in order for me to get paid. Months later, they told me that in order to make real money and sell the majority of the products; I needed to get my Series 6 license too. They also never told me I needed to pay for additional courses for me to get paid. There are so much hidden fees they don’t tell you about. Another lie is their disbelief that this opportunity isn’t about sales when in reality, all they do is sales. They sale to to people who buy the products and they sale to people who buy the business opportunity. Lastly, it makes me laugh when the liars at WFG get mad when I tell them their team building is basically pyramid building. When you recruit people under you and encourage the people under you to recruit some more, than it is building a pyramid or an mlm not team building. In a pyramid, the team goal is helping each other get promoted and earn a higher commission level than helping families through selling financial products.

gary October 15, 2010 at 5:56 pm

The problem with WFG is its sold as an opportunity to make alot of money and be very rewarding. With that said so are most careers. What I didnt like about the presentation is I felt things and information were being kept from me. Nobody wanted to answer questions most of us have when investing or looking for work. Thats what sent me away and the endless array of former dishwashers and housewives and etc.etc. that sugddenly are doing better than the best brokers on wall street. The secret is those peoplw would be succesful at whatever they do because they have the drive to win in their heart.

Michael Nwaogwugwu November 4, 2010 at 10:50 pm

I just want to say that if my father Stephen Nwaogwugwu can be in this business after 4 years, coming from being a taxi driver and a foreigner from africa, and learn this system and change my families life 4 years ago,
Why can’t you?
I just turned 18 and i’m Im studying for my license and going on the field with my dad to learn the business in more detail and unless you guys go to meetings, you will never really learn what WFG is.
They give all people, something to believe in.

Vasil November 10, 2010 at 9:48 pm

Hey, guys. I’ve been an agent for about 17 months now. I read Chris’ article months ago, but I’m glad it’s floureshing. All-in-all, I’d say that those who HAVE gone through the WFG program aer about on point: it’s not a pyramid (you’d have to do your own homework to delve into that meaning), it is your own business with mentors, you’re not going to make six figures overnight, and if you sit around and think about taking action of course you won’t make money.

For those knocking it, I suggest you schedule a lunch meeting with a marketing director and get your answers cleared up before hitting the blogs. Your baseless comments without getting your predispositions cleared up has a disastrous effect of blowing out our next potential CEOs. How would you like it if you started a business and someone hit the blogs saying that you guys are a scam without really getting to know you? How much business do you think you could do with that kind of crap floating around out there.?

For those considering going in or you’re sitting on the fence, just dive in. Honestly, I’d make an effort to get to know the qualified marketing director (QMD) quickly, if not also your team’s CEO. These folks not only have been around the longest and can answer all your questions, but you as a new trainee taking the initiative to meet higher leadership puts you on the radar. Just dive in, be coachable, and know that you won’t be a bazillionaire in your first year. It may take some uncomfortable self improvement, some realization that the person you were or the “friends” you previously had may not be the best in the world, and learning that true success requires some serious remapping of your mentality.

I wish you the best of luck from the San Diego office!

Christopher November 10, 2010 at 11:12 pm

Vasil, I’m very inspired by your comment. Thanks for the prespective.

Max May 15, 2011 at 1:30 pm

I am just starting with WFG. It’s been interesting because when I went in the first interview, I had no idea what they do, or anything. Why is it that they don’t just explain what it is instead of just rambling on whatever? I’m going to give it a shot to see if it’s the right job for me. Any advice would be great.

Thanks!

Christopher May 15, 2011 at 4:43 pm

Max,
I’m glad to see you’re giving WFG a shot. Here a few simple things to help you get rolling. First do exactly what your trainer ask you to do. They will teach you how the business works. Second, stay consistent. If you’re starting out part time contact at least 5 people a day for 5 days a week. Staying consistent with your work is the only way you’ll get constant results in your business. Finally, stick with WFG for at least a year. Most people tend to give up before they really fully understand the business, so stick with it for at least a year and if you don’t like it after that you can honestly say you gave a shot.

I hope this helps.

Dude May 15, 2011 at 8:33 pm

if you’re going in thinking it’s a “job”, you’re in for a disappointment.

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